66 Why People Study German Many Years Without Success
2026-04-16 23 min
Description & Show Notes
Why People Study German for Years Without Success
Have you been learning German for a long time—but still don’t feel confident speaking?
In this episode, we look at why this happens and what most learners don’t realize about how German is usually taught. Whether you’ve already struggled or you’re just getting started, this will help you see things differently.
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What You’ll Learn in This Episode
- Why some learners study German for years without real results
- What’s missing in most German courses
- A common mistake that prevents people from speaking
- Why traditional learning approaches often fail
- What actually needs to happen to make progress
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Welcome!
In this episode, we're going to look
why it happens that people study
German for many years without success.
So this is interesting for
you if it happened to you.
If you are one of these people and you
have studied German, and you tried,
but it is also interesting for you
if you are about to start to learn
German and if that is something that
you plan, so you can maybe avoid some
of the mistakes or some of the things
that happen to people when they happen.
Okay, so let's get some clarity,
what I'm even talking about.
This is not something I'm making up just
because I want to, shock you or something.
It's actually one of the reasons,
probably the main reason, why
I have started to teach German.
So people came to me, telling me
that they had worked on learning
German, but they weren't successful.
So I had a friend and
she's a very smart girl.
Her name is Diana, I'm sorry, of
course she's a woman and I don't
know exactly, I think she had been in
Austria for two years at that time,
and she really worked on her German.
She had learned with different
people, even teachers, and she just
didn't really make any success,
she just didn't really make any
progress, and she told me about it.
That was just a time, when
I had already given up on
teaching German myself, frankly.
Then at that time I started to work
with a new program with new materials
and I saw these new materials and they
gave me a new angle and I used those,
I used what I had learned with her and
suddenly she learned German very fast.
And then I thought,
"Hmm, I think I'm onto something here."
Okay, so let me summarize
what's happening here.
It doesn't really matter if they
learn it in a particular country
or if they learn it in Austria
or if they learn it at school.
Let me just summarize a few of the
things that are happening here.
One of the things in most schools
and classes is that there isn't
even any practice for speaking.
There is like, what do you want to
do when you come to Austria, for
example, to work here or to live here?
Or even if you travel to Austria,
like in 95% of the cases, if
you are learning German, you
want to be able to speak German.
Be honest.
I mean, I personally, I'm a books freak.
I really love books.
I have started reading when I
was seven, probably or eight.
I don't know when exactly I started
to read books, but once I started
to read books, I never went back
and I don't think that there is a
week in my life I have spent since
then with without reading books.
So I really, I love them and
most of the books that I read
for pleasure are German books.
There's a hell of a lot of good
literature, and I read everything.
I read serious books and I read
books for fun, I read the romance
and I really read almost everything.
There is really a lot of German literature
that is very worthwhile reading.
Still, I dare you, I think most of
the people that actually learn German
are not learning German mainly because
they want to read Goethe in original.
So people want to speak German
and, it's really not something
that is actually taught.
It is something that is expected to happen
automatically at some point, but it is
not something that is actually taught.
And people read in class and they write
a lot in class and maybe they even
do listening stuff, but they barely
talk.
Another point that could be happening
and is indeed happening a lot is that
at the very beginning when you learn a
language, the first thing should be you
are learning a lot of new vocabulary.
And by learn, I mean not just see words
on a page, but learn how to say it,
how to pronounce it, and how to use it.
I've just recently had an experience
with one of my students and she
told me that nobody ever made
her pronounce any of these words.
She had been doing German classes
for years and nobody actually
ever made her pronounce words.
That was a little bit of a surprise
to me on one hand, but then on the
other hand, maybe not, because that's
another big reason, and another thing
that happens a lot, that people are
not actually made to even say things
and they're not, learning vocabulary.
These are probably even
two different things.
So the first thing, if you start
learning a language, you need to
build up some sort of a vocabulary.
That's also what we did when we were kids.
We learned words first
because you can't do anything.
So what is the thing that people learn
in schools or in courses very much,
and I think in Germany it's even worse,
is they're focusing a lot on grammar.
So what is grammar though?
Grammar is the rules how you put together
words so they make sense in communication.
Try looking up that definition,
but that's what it is.
So you have rules, we have all
of these words and how are we
putting them together to make
sentences that actually make sense.
I cannot just throw together a
bunch of words and expect that
people will understand them.
I cannot say "flower, red, pretty, vase."
So what?
"Put the red flower in
the pretty vase." Or,
"Put the pretty flower
in the red ways." Or,
"The red flower in the vase is pretty."
What?
These are different concepts that you
could make with these words, and so
to make them into an understandable
thought, we have rules how we put
them together and that is grammar.
That's all it is, Now, let's go
back to this definition; It is the
rules how to put words together.
Now, if you don't have any words, how can
it be useful to learn rules on how to put
the things that you don't have together?
So what I'm trying to say, in order to
learn grandma in a way that makes sense
you need to have words, and I think
before you haven't learned a few hundred
words, I'm sure you will agree, there
isn't much you can say because it's a
few hundred words before you can even
start saying something very intelligible.
So you have to learn a few
hundred words before you even
bother about any grammar really.
Yes, that's the second point.
Then I already touched on it.
In many courses, people
are not made to say things.
So, many courses work on the theory
that you're sitting there, and you're
sitting there and you're writing and
you're listening, and then suddenly
you start magically speaking.
That's as if you were reading a
cookbook and watching cooking series,
and you were never anywhere close to
a kitchen and you would never touch
a knife, and then after you have done
this for two or three years, you go
into a kitchen and you cook perfectly.
This is not going to happen, and it's
not going to happen with German either
or anything else for that matter.
So that is one of the
things, another point.
And then another point is, we've kind
of touched on it, but it's a general
imbalance of theory and practice.
This is, by the way, something
that is again, not just happening
with German or language at all.
So, what do we do in a typical
German class, people read a lot.
They learn a lot of theory and
rules and so on, and then there
is no time left for practice.
I've seen that.
This is actually an example
that I know from English.
They know the rules.
They know they can tell me,
"Okay, go, went, gone, blah, blah, blah."
But then when they make a sentence
where it should be in there,
they don't know how to use it.
They know the theoretical rules.
They can even pass an exam about the
theoretical rules, but they don't know
how to apply them, and that is also
very much the case with learning German.
and It is very simple to
test if that is happening.
If you are sitting there and you're
reading and you're learning a theoretical
rule and you're doing that for half
an hour, then you should be practicing
for two hours or probably it's better
you do something theoretical for like
10 minutes and then be practicing this
particular thing for like 45 minutes.
And that kind of like
concludes one hour of lesson.
That's what it should be, but
I'm telling you, it's not.
In a good case, in a school, it's probably
more like you're doing 40 minutes of
theory and then 10 minutes of practical.
I never thought of that.
So the typical school lesson
in Austria is 50 minutes.
I don't know how it is in your
country, but I think that's something
that is happening in many places.
So you should have like 20%
theory and 80% practical.
So you could actually say it's 10
minutes theory and 40 minutes practical.
However, in our classes we do
have homework and homework is
in many, many cases something
practical because of writing stuff.
In a class with me, the written parts
where you write things yourself are, done
at home because you don't need me watching
that, and, that is also part of practical.
So I guess you could say you do 20
minutes of theory in a class, that
would be ideal, 30 minutes of practical
and then another half an hour at home.
Something like that.
That would be a good percentage, but what
is happening, I remember it distinctly,
you go through a word list, for example.
You read it and you clarify
the meanings, and that's it.
And then you get a homework, learn it
verbatim, which wouldn't be so bad if
that would be an actual practical thing.
So that brings me to another
point that is happening.
This is learning things verbatim.
So learning things verbatim.
I don't, say that you can't learn things
verbatim and there is certain things that
you have to learn verbatim, probably,
but even the things that don't have, a,
system or something like that, like the
German "der, die and das" articles and
so on, learning verbatim means usually
to most people, you sit there and you
repeat the thing, "der, der Stuhl.
der Stuhl, der Stuhl, der Stuhl, der
Stuhl" in your head and then you expect
that you remember it and, honestly, if you
were saying it again and again, and if you
were reading a list of words aloud, that
would probably be not entirely useless.
However, the best way of learning
words is actually using them so
you can make sentences with them.
When you learn a word like
"der Tisch" in German, "the
table," then you use that word.
And if you can already, you can
of course make simple German
sentences and you can say,
"Der Tisch ist groß,"
"The table is big"
Or "Ich habe einen Tisch,"
"I have a table."
But if you're at the very beginning,
then you just use your own language
for the rest of the word, and you say,
"I need to clean up my Tisch now."
"The Tisch is very beautiful.
"I want another Tisch," and you do
this a couple of more times until you
are good with the word "Tisch" and
you just practice the article with
it and that will come automatically.
So that is not enough practice.
That is just one example.
By the way, I am going more over
this in the better German workshop.
So if you are interested, for example,
in doing a course with me, then the
first step would be to attend the "How to
Actually Learn German" workshop because
in that workshop I go over a few of these
things and I also go over practical parts.
So if you're interested in
that, you can always do that.
You can come and you can go
to bettergerman.info/workshop
for the next appointment, the next date.
Anyway, so that's another point.
We don't have enough practice.
Then there is another point,
and we have touched on that,
but I want to go back to it.
I have already talked about too
much grammar in the beginning, and I
want to go back to that because it's
not just that it's the wrong time,
before you have any words to learn
grammar, because in principle there is
nothing wrong about learning grammar.
As I said, if you don't have any
words yet, it's not the right thing.
But you do need grammar.
I mean, you do need to know how
to put these things together, but
how is grammar taught usually?
So, as I said, I really love grammar,
and I do have grammar books at home,
but in experience, have a look in them.
They're written by linguists for
linguists, so in most cases, even
when somebody's ready to learn
grammar, they make it hard because
they're using very complicated
ways of explaining these concepts.
Let's put it that way.
That makes it very hard.
I don't want to, kind of like put you
asleep or something like that, so I'm
not going to tell you, too many things,
but there is actually books that were
quite good, and then if you suddenly
throw five or six different concepts
with long Latin words at someone's head
and he doesn't know what they are, even
in his own language, then he's not going
to have a good time learning those.
So that's another thing.
And then one other thing, probably
the last one that I'm going to cover
in this episode that I see, that is
more in schools, actually not just in
schools, that the method that is used
for examining people is not helpful.
I just had a very good example
yesterday, I read somewhere that
"This is a good example that is used
for, exams a lot because students
usually get it wrong" and I'm like,
"Huh?"
So this, text said that it is very
good to use this particular question
because students often get it wrong.
So I'm basically testing people to
fail, and maybe some of you will say,
"Finally, somebody says that!" Of
course not everybody's the same.
I definitely don't think that teachers
are generally, trying to do that.
However, what happens as a practice,
just because it has been done like that
for probably centuries, the way most
exams are built are you ask people for
questions, trying to find something that
they will fail, and we're not mainly
putting our focus on the application.
Can they actually apply
what they've learned?
This is probably more in school
than it is in other places, but in
school, this is very, very, very bad.
And then there is one last thing that I
want to mention, just because I've seen
it in Austria very much, and I'm sure
it's the same way in Germany, people
have to pass certain language tests
for their visa to get a citizenship,
to go to university, things like that.
And they passed these exams, so
there's these levels of German, or
any language knowledge, A1, A2 for
beginners, B1, B2 for intermediate,
C1, C2 for very advanced, so A1 the
simplest, and C2 the hardest, and
people pass A1, A2, B1 and even B2 exams
and they do not speak the language.
They somehow get by, they learn things
verbatim mainly, and then at the end of
the day, they can't speak the language.
I've had several students who've passed
B1 or even B2 tests, and they were not
able to even have a conversation, and the
reason for that is I think that people are
learning for exams mainly, and also that
they don't know how to learn properly,
and it's made very hard for them.
So how can we summarize that
and what can you do about it?
First of all, if you want to learn
German then try to get a course
that keeps that in, that focuses
in the beginning on vocabulary.
That doesn't throw super long,
complicated things at your head that
you don't understand, particularly in
the beginning, and that has a balance
of theory and practice that makes
you speak, that makes you say things.
This is the type of course
you should be looking for.
Of course, my courses are courses
like that, so if you are interested
in that, then you can check those out.
So, focus on vocabulary first.
That's something you can do
even if you learn by yourself.
Focus on vocabulary, and if you
just do that, you will come to
a point where you can get by.
Even if you do that and you learn
and you can actually use 500 words
and then start your first German
course, even that will help you, and
it will make things so much easier.
But then of course, if you want to
learn something, you have probably
heard in this episode already, if you
want to know what your actual German
level is, not the tested level or
something like that, then you can go to
bettergerman.info/test and take a test.
Even if you are a complete beginner,
you can take that because there's also
questions about like "why do you want
to learn German, or what do you want
to learn German for?" and things like
that, and you can add things like, you're
looking for this and that or this type
of course, and the thing is, I'm going to
look at this and I look at it personally,
and I'm going to send you a written
recommendation based on what I think that,
you could be doing or you should be doing.
This could be a course of mine, but I will
always include also something that you can
do without doing a course, but it could
also be something completely different.
If I don't have a course
that will help you with your
situation, then I will tell you.
Okay, so I hope that this,
episode is helping you.
Please do let me know and
I'll talk to you soon.
Bye-bye!